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Cliff
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1st Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:21 pm | |
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this man was on the Dr Phil show today. he used to have a show on TV. I like to watch the Dr. Phil show sometimes but today when I saw that this guy was the guest, I couldnt' handle it.
This guy and the other phoney physic drive me nuts. The I see an A around you. Oh well is it an R, maybe a L, no, then a M, Yes an M do you have a MOTHER, you do, well she wants you to know she is fine,
'I know I talked to her this morning on the phone", NO I mean your other mother, My other mother? Yes the one you were born to...... ( i'm making all this up ) but it is crap like that, that drove me nuts about him. He is just creepy and should be kept in a cell with concrete walls and no windows so people around him wont' get scammed by him. He is my definition of a scary horror film.
Have you seen the crazy man?
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Sam
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2nd Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:29 pm | |
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He was on some stoopid morning show this morning. I watched for at least 3 minutes before shouting "bullsh**" and changing the channel. (it didn't take me that long to figure out he was full of it once I was paying attention to what he was talking about)
That guy is "bad touch" creepy.
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Texie
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3rd Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:32 pm | |
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| Cliff? What was Dr. Phil's take on the subject?
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jody
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4th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:36 pm | |
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| I've interviewed him before. He does not like questions about Bible injunctions against consulting mediums, nor does he appreaciate questions regarding "cold reading" - essentially what a maitre'd does when he sees expensive shoes and gives you a better table. The guy is a phony.
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jellowrestling
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5th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:47 pm | |
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jody wrote: I've interviewed him before. He does not like questions about Bible injunctions against consulting mediums, nor does he appreaciate questions regarding "cold reading" - essentially what a maitre'd does when he sees expensive shoes and gives you a better table. The guy is a phony.
People like that infuriate me. They prey on the hopes of the desparate.
Kinda like the Democrat Party.
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Cliff
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6th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 09:58 pm | |
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Texie wrote: Cliff? What was Dr. Phil's take on the subject? On one part that I caught Dr Phill just sat back and told him. "go ahead you are the expert here".
When I came back to the show at the very end, Dr Phil was holding up his book and said some thing like If you have an inclination about these things, then this book is where you need to go for answers. He was on the show, showing off his new book about the DEAD, and Dr Phil was letting him do readings of people in the audience. I thought Dr Phil might be above this guy, but I guess he isnt' any better than Maury Povich.
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cartoonservices.com
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7th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 11:00 pm | |
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That stuff is nothing but a parlor game. Ask "yes or no" questions, or questions that lead to or away from certain outcomes in a slick way, divining some info the hapless victim has. And once accomplished, it still ain't psychic: he or she hasn't delved at all into the future.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mcoldreading.html
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Sam
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8th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 11:02 pm | |
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Cliff wrote: Texie wrote: Cliff? What was Dr. Phil's take on the subject? On one part that I caught Dr Phill just sat back and told him. "go ahead you are the expert here".
When I came back to the show at the very end, Dr Phil was holding up his book and said some thing like If you have an inclination about these things, then this book is where you need to go for answers. He was on the show, showing off his new book about the DEAD, and Dr Phil was letting him do readings of people in the audience. I thought Dr Phil might be above this guy, but I guess he isnt' any better than Maury Povich.
Dr. Phil is a whore.
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9th Post Thu May 15th, 2008 11:19 pm | |
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The good psychics almost have to be psychic to do their stuff.  They're a joy to watch, how they pick up little hints from the subject and extrapolate on them. Great fun. Fakery but fun fakery.
The bad ones? Brain meld them with a losing "American Idol" contestant.
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Texie
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10th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 02:10 pm | |
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I've just to say this and get it out of my system:
If you've ever walked along the path of true grief and I mean losing someone very close to you (pets don't count here) it's quite possible you could seek out any method to get you through it. Losing someone close to you sucks and there's no other way around it.
When I was faced with several grief situations in just a short about amount of time, I thought I was losing my ever loving mind. Not only did I seek out conventional methods of comfort, I took another path as well. I visited a psychic as well as an "energy" reader who both "saw" my loved ones surrounding me with love; that's all I needed to hear at the moment and I was able to slowly move on. I also prayed, read my Bible and went into grief counseling. I also found little signs around me that reminded me of who (and what) I had lost. The longer I've been in touch with my losses, my belief in pyschics lessened. I don't know how they truly do it, but they do. I didn't spend too much time with them; it was just another path. They made less than $100 off me.
Several years ago my aunt planted a rose bush in her garden and called it the "Charlie and Waynell" rose, after my mom and dad. My dad was a brilliant agriculturist and grew the most beautiful flowers for my mother's enjoyment. On my wedding day just a few short weeks ago, the rosebush bloomed two beautiful pink rose buds. That my friend is a sign to me that they were "with" me on that day.
I'm not exactly a fan of Dr. Phil and I didn't see the show, however it sounds to me as though he was giving his viewers a choice in what to believe in and what not to believe in.
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Lily1
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11th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 02:23 pm | |
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| Excellent points Texie!!!!!!!
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Will
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12th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 04:09 pm | |
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jude
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13th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 04:41 pm | |
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Lily1 wrote: Excellent points Texie!!!!!!!
If it helps your grieving and is a positive thing I see no problem. Can't say I'd really believe it, but sometimes just hearing things like "your loved ones surround you with warmth," is plain-old good to hear. But why not pets, Texie? I actually, for the short term> have a much harder time dealing with the loss of a beloved pet than a relative. Probably because I have been able to actually talk to relatives and loved ones that have passed before they go and I am more prepared to come to terms with reality. Of course, in the long run, I miss and mourn people stronger.
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Texie
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14th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 05:07 pm | |
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jude wrote: Lily1 wrote: Excellent points Texie!!!!!!!
If it helps your grieving and is a positive thing I see no problem. Can't say I'd really believe it, but sometimes just hearing things like "your loved ones surround you with warmth," is plain-old good to hear. But why not pets, Texie? I actually, for the short term> have a much harder time dealing with the loss of a beloved pet than a relative. Probably because I have been able to actually talk to relatives and loved ones that have passed before they go and I am more prepared to come to terms with reality. Of course, in the long run, I miss and mourn people stronger.
After a period of grieving the loss of our pets, we can always find a replacement. Of course there will never be "another Spot or Fluffball" but you can replace them. You can't replace a parent that died prematurely.
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15th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 06:37 pm | |
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When Harry Houdini's mother died, he wanted to believe that her spirit was in contact with him (Spiritualism was on the rise at that time). However, he was a professional magician, and was well-versed in the "tricks of the trade". He went to spiritualist after spiritualist, hoping to find the "real thing". He never did, and he exposed every one of them for the frauds they were.
Modern-day debunkers like Penn & Teller and James Randi were inspired by Houdini.
Spiritualism started with girls doing parlor tricks, and nothing has changed over the last century+.
I don't know if spirits attend to and comfort us, but no one has ever been able to demonstrate in a controlled study that they can communicate directly with spirits, and that's the part of it that is total B.S. I didn't see the Dr. Phil show, but I don't have to. The guy is full of it.
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16th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 07:01 pm | |
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17th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 07:59 pm | |
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Texie wrote: I've just to say this and get it out of my system:
If you've ever walked along the path of true grief and I mean losing someone very close to you (pets don't count here) it's quite possible you could seek out any method to get you through it. Losing someone close to you sucks and there's no other way around it.
When I was faced with several grief situations in just a short about amount of time, I thought I was losing my ever loving mind. Not only did I seek out conventional methods of comfort, I took another path as well. I visited a psychic as well as an "energy" reader who both "saw" my loved ones surrounding me with love; that's all I needed to hear at the moment and I was able to slowly move on. I also prayed, read my Bible and went into grief counseling. I also found little signs around me that reminded me of who (and what) I had lost. The longer I've been in touch with my losses, my belief in pyschics lessened. I don't know how they truly do it, but they do. I didn't spend too much time with them; it was just another path. They made less than $100 off me.
Several years ago my aunt planted a rose bush in her garden and called it the "Charlie and Waynell" rose, after my mom and dad. My dad was a brilliant agriculturist and grew the most beautiful flowers for my mother's enjoyment. On my wedding day just a few short weeks ago, the rosebush bloomed two beautiful pink rose buds. That my friend is a sign to me that they were "with" me on that day.
I'm not exactly a fan of Dr. Phil and I didn't see the show, however it sounds to me as though he was giving his viewers a choice in what to believe in and what not to believe in.
I understand what Texie is saying. Sometimes grief makes us need something we might not have thought much about otherwise.
I know both my mother, and my mother-in-law had "visions" of seeing their own mothers after they passed away - you know - waking up in the middle of the night and "seeing" her standing next to the bed or walking past the door. They take comfort in thinking their Mom was still watching over them.
My mother-in-law has a rose bush outside her kitchen window, planted by her husband the year before he passed away. It blooms beautifully every year just before Mother's Day. She swears he is still sending her roses.
My friend thinks her mother sends her little reminders of her presence. Sometimes a word or a phrase that was common in their discussions pops up out of the blue, my friend takes comfort in thinking that her Mom is listening.
What ever brings comfort in grief is important at that time.
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crackertoes
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18th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 08:03 pm | |
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Zephyr wrote: Aw hell, anyone who's ever seen Keith Richards can say they've seen a dead person.
Dead man walking...
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19th Post Fri May 16th, 2008 08:43 pm | |
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crackertoes wrote: Zephyr wrote: Aw hell, anyone who's ever seen Keith Richards can say they've seen a dead person.
Dead man walking...
He cannot be killed by conventional weapons...
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