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 41st Post Mon Jul 28th, 2008 04:12 am 

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Well, I can tell you about when the first time I heard , "they way you look doesn't matter".   In was in the early 60's, when people told me that long haired men could do a job just as well as a man with short hair.

I could not argue with that, but wondered if they actually would. 

I went on to go to college, and considered myself a college bum, at which time I had long hair myself, and was so poor that all my jeans had holes in them.  My hair was basically long, because I didn't want to spend money on hair cuts, but to my suprise, women really liked it.   I supose its the primitive animal look they took a shine to.  In fact it seemed the worse I looked the better they liked it.   



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 42nd Post Mon Jul 28th, 2008 04:15 am 

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tennis gal wrote: Cliff is a Mormon.
i forgot...:brickhead:



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Cliff wrote: chronos wrote: crackertoes wrote: It was really a sad commentary when that young woman was asked to cover up on a SW flight a couple of years ago. Used to be that women had more modesty and decorum. Now they flaunt it all and we say "Yeah... way to go! Exercise your rights!" 

 


Gotta disagree with you there.

that girl who was asked to cover up ..the one showing a bit of cleavage was dressed more modestly than Dolly Madison. I see nothing wrong with a woman showing cleavage..in fact I enjoy it..the new puritanical styles employed by some women in the Midwest leaves much to be desired..in fact I find much of it and the attitude behind it quite revolting.

I'm not talking about tube tops and 300 Lb women here but if a woman does have the body to go along with the fashion then she should feel free to wear it..its about time things swung back toward more of a feminine sexuality and away from Mormon puritanical garments
snide comment there Chronos,  very snide.    My comments had nothing to do with this at all.  I am talking about our loss of self respect and how we look out in public.  Yes your comment was out of line.



too bad so sad..if you dress your women like the FLDS then that is your business..I dont care for it and will say so ..snide or not

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whoa.... Dude....



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I like this

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Do NOT like this

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chronos wrote: Cliff wrote: chronos wrote: crackertoes wrote: It was really a sad commentary when that young woman was asked to cover up on a SW flight a couple of years ago. Used to be that women had more modesty and decorum. Now they flaunt it all and we say "Yeah... way to go! Exercise your rights!" 

 


Gotta disagree with you there.

that girl who was asked to cover up ..the one showing a bit of cleavage was dressed more modestly than Dolly Madison. I see nothing wrong with a woman showing cleavage..in fact I enjoy it..the new puritanical styles employed by some women in the Midwest leaves much to be desired..in fact I find much of it and the attitude behind it quite revolting.

I'm not talking about tube tops and 300 Lb women here but if a woman does have the body to go along with the fashion then she should feel free to wear it..its about time things swung back toward more of a feminine sexuality and away from Mormon puritanical garments
snide comment there Chronos,  very snide.    My comments had nothing to do with this at all.  I am talking about our loss of self respect and how we look out in public.  Yes your comment was out of line.



too bad so sad..if you dress your women like the FLDS then that is your business..I dont care for it and will say so ..snide or not


Nice comment. You wanna run that "your women" line past Marie Osmond?

Sort of the intellectual equivalent of showing your boxers. Very fashionable. In both cases, it shows your rear. Snide, or not.  

Lots of different ways of living only for yourself.

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so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.



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Ric wrote: so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.
Isn't that exactly how this thread started?  Someone did not like the way others looked.

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Ric wrote: so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.
 

isn't that what people do on a daily basis here?

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kenaus wrote: Ric wrote: so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.
Isn't that exactly how this thread started?  Someone did not like the way others looked.


But Ken.. He wasn't being ugly.. and he certainly wasn't digging at a particular group, particularly a group that is the man's faith



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kathy wrote: Ric wrote: so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.
 

isn't that what people do on a daily basis here?


Do you REALLY believe that, Kathy??



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jody wrote: chronos wrote: Cliff wrote: chronos wrote: crackertoes wrote: It was really a sad commentary when that young woman was asked to cover up on a SW flight a couple of years ago. Used to be that women had more modesty and decorum. Now they flaunt it all and we say "Yeah... way to go! Exercise your rights!" 

 


Gotta disagree with you there.

that girl who was asked to cover up ..the one showing a bit of cleavage was dressed more modestly than Dolly Madison. I see nothing wrong with a woman showing cleavage..in fact I enjoy it..the new puritanical styles employed by some women in the Midwest leaves much to be desired..in fact I find much of it and the attitude behind it quite revolting.

I'm not talking about tube tops and 300 Lb women here but if a woman does have the body to go along with the fashion then she should feel free to wear it..its about time things swung back toward more of a feminine sexuality and away from Mormon puritanical garments
snide comment there Chronos,  very snide.    My comments had nothing to do with this at all.  I am talking about our loss of self respect and how we look out in public.  Yes your comment was out of line.



too bad so sad..if you dress your women like the FLDS then that is your business..I dont care for it and will say so ..snide or not


Nice comment. You wanna run that "your women" line past Marie Osmond?

Sort of the intellectual equivalent of showing your boxers. Very fashionable. In both cases, it shows your rear. Snide, or not.  

Lots of different ways of living only for yourself.

get ahold of yourself..you seem to be letting your emotions overcome you

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Ric wrote: kenaus wrote: Ric wrote: so you feel like because YOU don't particularly like the way a group of people dress, YOU have the right to make disparging remarks about them? I don't follow.
Isn't that exactly how this thread started?  Someone did not like the way others looked.


But Ken.. He wasn't being ugly.. and he certainly wasn't digging at a particular group, particularly a group that is the man's faith

True however; I don't understand why everyone is so concerned about what others wear.  Someone even mentioned that it was insulting to others if people dress poorly.  My feeling is, to each his own.  I will worry about how I look and I certainly won't be insulted by what others wear.....unless of course they have a t-shirt that is disparging the Steelers then they have gone too far.

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Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha!

Who?



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The DMN referred to those as "prairie dresses"...I guess like Laura Ingalls



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One of the last times I was in Wal-Mart, a man actually pointed me out to his wife and told me how nice I looked.  He even asked me where I got one of the huge rings I wear.  I was embarrassed for her because I know she had probably worked hard all day and didn't have time to put her makeup on or whatever - but he made a big deal out of it. 

I am glad I grew up wearing white gloves and Sunday shoes and dresses.  I would never wear shorts to downtown Dallas or to Northpark to shop.  I used to never wear shorts to a doctors office but now I do - I always have to take everything off anyway. 

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It's not my job to tell people how to dress.  They can dress any way they wont to. 

But it is also not my job to turn a blind eye to the obvious.  The way people dress is often an indication of what is going on inside. 

For example:  A bum on the street wearing cloths that have not been washed in weeks, perhaps months, that are torn and smelly, tells me that they guy has problems. 

A man walking down the street showing his underwear because his pants are down below his butt , well I'm not sure what that tells me, but I find it offensive.  Not to mention if he has his hands down the front of his pants playing with himself while walking down the street. 

It reminded me of animals in a zoo, that throw their dung at you.  Or dogs in the front yard getting it on.  Kinda like the kids in school getting a BJ during the pep rally and soiling the girls hair in the next row.

There is certainly a line that can be crossed either way.   We can become to blind to the obvious of what is going on , or to judgmental.   Either one would seem to be a mistake. 

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I'm wondering if we should apply the same non judgmental attitude to say a person who lives in filth? 

The state of Texas will step in and take kids out of filthy situations, or even elderly people.  We have decided, made a judgment that living in filth is not acceptable. 

BUT:  Polio was the clean disease.  It happened in America because we were to clean.  Our immune system was lowered due to never being exposed to certain germs and bacteria. 

We will get sick if we go to Mexico and drink the water, while the people who live there don't. 

Vacinations are often the practice of exposing us to small doses of disease for the purpose of building our immune system.

So, is there really any scientific justification for the  preference of living in sterile conditions? 

No one is saying don't judge a person because they live in filth.  That judgment is so accepted it is law. 

Well there are different kinds of filth, one you can see and the other that manafests it self in less obvious ways. 

We make judgments all the time, including the one that says you can't make any judgments. 



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Robert wrote: Kinda like the kids in school getting a BJ during the pep rally and soiling the girls hair in the next row. 



How did we get from the way people dress to this analogy?????  :smile:


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