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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 01:28 am |
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Red Oak II
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Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
The Obama administration will halt new work on a "virtual fence" on the U.S.-Mexican border, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano announced Tuesday, diverting $50 million in planned economic stimulus funds for the project to other purposes.
Napolitano said the freeze on work beyond two pilot projects in Arizona was pending a broader reassessment. But the move signals a likely death knell for a troubled five-year plan to drape a chain of tower-mounted sensors and other surveillance gear across most of the 2,000-mile southern border.
That vision, initiated in 2006 by President George W. Bush, called for a series of networked cameras, radar and communications gear to help speed the response of U.S. Border Patrol officers to catch illegal immigrants and smugglers over the vast border area. However, the effort has been plagued by technical problems and delays with prime contractor Boeing Corp.
Obama officials embraced the program, known as SBInet, on taking office in 2009, setting out a new five-year timetable for completion. However, the administration last month proposed cutting funding to finish SBInet's first phase by roughly 30 percent under new congressional questioning about the plan's feasibility.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 01:36 am |
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Bob Of Burleson
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Good! That was one of the dumbest ideas coming out of Washington in recent times. All one has to do is look at the distances involved in the project to see that it's an impossible task. Strategic areas, yes, the whole shebang, no.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 01:40 am |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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They pissed away 50 Million or more on the Stupid Pre-Census letter.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 03:15 am |
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RebelRouzer
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Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 03:23 am |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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Rats need votes.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 01:48 pm |
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jellowrestling
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RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
+1
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 01:59 pm |
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Stoli
Orphie is a SBWLLHCE!!!!!!!!
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jellowrestling wrote: RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
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Make it electric
Attachment: supermax_fence.jpg (Downloaded 37 times)
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 04:06 pm |
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Bob Of Burleson
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RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
Where did I say that? Here's what I said:
Good! That was one of the dumbest ideas coming out of Washington in recent times. All one has to do is look at the distances involved in the project to see that it's an impossible task. Strategic areas, yes, the whole shebang, no.
Nowhere in that did I say it's dumb to defend the border against invaders.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 11:57 pm |
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RebelRouzer
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IF and its a big IF---if we had the political will we could stop all invaders at he border.A combination of mine fields,electrified fences,and armed men in humvees and atvs would solve the problem at less than we spend on food stamps, medicaid, unremibursed healthcare,rent subsidies,and wic that we spend on invaders and their american dependents they have when they get here.I know it will never happen ,but it should.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 12:15 am |
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Bob Of Burleson
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We could do it a heck of a lot easier with an alien work program like other countries have.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 12:24 am |
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RebelRouzer
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The problem with the WORK plan is the Aliens reproduction plan once they arrive to work.Permission to work----Start work----bring wife or find a guest worker of other sex---- Bingo little American citizens whose guest worker parents now quilify for a myrid of services funded by US.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 01:04 pm |
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Zephyr
Forming a Polka Line.....
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You want to keep 'em out of the country? Let Roseanne (Fill in her current last name here) welcome them with a rendition of the National Anthem.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:08 pm |
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GregfromBurbank
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Bob Of Burleson wrote: RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
Where did I say that? Here's what I said:
Good! That was one of the dumbest ideas coming out of Washington in recent times. All one has to do is look at the distances involved in the project to see that it's an impossible task. Strategic areas, yes, the whole shebang, no.
Nowhere in that did I say it's dumb to defend the border against invaders.
But since the fence has done so well in reducing the flow of illegals..yes..I think that's what you said.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:30 pm |
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Bob Of Burleson
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GregfromBurbank wrote: Bob Of Burleson wrote: RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
Where did I say that? Here's what I said:
Good! That was one of the dumbest ideas coming out of Washington in recent times. All one has to do is look at the distances involved in the project to see that it's an impossible task. Strategic areas, yes, the whole shebang, no.
Nowhere in that did I say it's dumb to defend the border against invaders.
But since the fence has done so well in reducing the flow of illegals..yes..I think that's what you said.
The fence had minimal impact on reducing the flow of illegals into the United States. Economic conditions here made for fewer jobs and thus fewer crossings. Ninty-nine percent of Mexicans crossing the border are looking for work, not citizenship.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:35 pm |
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GregfromBurbank
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Bob Of Burleson wrote: GregfromBurbank wrote: Bob Of Burleson wrote: RebelRouzer wrote: Why is it DUMB to try to defend the border against invaders?
Where did I say that? Here's what I said:
Good! That was one of the dumbest ideas coming out of Washington in recent times. All one has to do is look at the distances involved in the project to see that it's an impossible task. Strategic areas, yes, the whole shebang, no.
Nowhere in that did I say it's dumb to defend the border against invaders.
But since the fence has done so well in reducing the flow of illegals..yes..I think that's what you said.
The fence had minimal impact on reducing the flow of illegals into the United States. Economic conditions here made for fewer jobs and thus fewer crossings. Ninty-nine percent of Mexicans crossing the border are looking for work, not citizenship.
Nice try there, Bob..but the flow of illegals started to drop off significantly WAY before the economy went bad.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:36 pm |
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RebelRouzer
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But they create citizens when they arrive, anchors for services you and I get to pay for.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 02:40 pm |
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Ryan
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What fence? A laser beam that alerts an agent 5 miles away?
A POS video camera that Aunt Mary can watch on her PC in Texarkana.......to call an agent 850 miles away to tell them 5 Mexicans are crossing the border?
Guns, tanks, pissed off pit bulls, and Chuck Norris.
Problem solved.
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