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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 07:08 pm |
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Red Oak II
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Sounds like something Fascists would attemp
Rally to Resore Sanity” pledges to “strictly prohibit filming” at National Mall
By: J.P. Freire
Associate Commentary Editor
10/29/10 10:35 PM EDT
Irony reaches new heights as Comedy Central is going to “strictly prohibit filming” of the Rally to Restore Sanity/March to Keep Fear Alive. PJTV’s Washington Bureau chief Richard Pollock inquired with the Comedy Central’s senior vice president of corporate communications Steve Albani about receiving credentials. Albani claimed that Pollock would not be given credentials because of limited supply, and as such there would be no room on the “press riser” for PJTV’s camera and crew. When Pollock said that he’d be fine with filming not on the press riser, Albani said that filming would be “strictly prohibited” between 3rd and 7th streets on the National Mall (ground zero for the event). The email exchange is further down.
The claim that Comedy Central can prohibit filming on federal property during an event open to the public is completely wrong. I know this because I co-organized the first D.C. Tea Party event with John O’Hara (again, prior to my employment at The Examiner, yadda yadda), meaning I’ve gone through the process of getting a permit on federal property run by the National Park Service, which is precisely what Comedy Central had to do. And under the special events guidelines, which Albani may not have taken time to look at, is this:
News coverage of the event is allowed without additional permits unless significant additional equipment set-up, which is not depicted on the Permittees site plan, is involved. Arrangements for press and broadcast media coverage of the event must be made at least seven (7) days before the opening day of the event.
Here’s another resource, too. If PJTV’s crew walks around with handheld cameras, they’re well within their rights, particularly as a media organization — especially considering the number of camera phones, Flipcams, and personal camcorders that will be used during the event. But wait — it looks like somebody at Comedy Central read the rules because there’s a list on the Rally’s Frequently Asked Questions page about what is not permitted, and cameras are unlisted. In fact, the FAQ even says that the event is open to the media and to contact about credentials.
You don’t need credentials to film an event open to the public on federal land that has already permitted other media outlets. Comedy Central has not leased the National Mall, nor could it. In other words, quit it. Either this is a fun publicity stunt steeped in irony or it’s an exercise in corporate control. And last I checked, it’s not “Comedy Central Planning.”
In fact, the Tea Party movement has done a bang-up job allowing as many kooky reporters and camera-toting people into their rallies, and simply found ways to deal with it without clamping down on free press. (The most innovative is using signs to expose Tea Party imposters.) In fact, as Lachlan Markay notes, the press is going wild for this event, but Glenn Beck’s Rally to Restore Hope was willing to provide more credentials (though it’s uncertain who, if any, were ever denied):
For some perspective, consider that the September 12, 2010 Tea Party on the Mall received roughly 150 requests for press credentials, according to FreedomWorks, which sponsored the event.
Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” rally granted 450 such credentials to journalists, but in the brief contact NewsBusters had with Beck’s staff there was no indication that any reporter who had requested credentials had been turned down.
There’s the real irony: While this rally seeks to make fun of Tea Party activists who advocate for freedom, Comedy Central is looking to tightly control the event as much as possible. Lame.
Be sure and read Pollock’s fantastic rejoinder at the end of the email thread.
From: “Albani, Steve”
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:59:27 -0400
To: Richard Pollock
Subject: RE: DC Rally Update
Richard – you should have received notification yesterday. Unfortunately, due to extremely limited riser locations, we are not able to accommodate your request for credentials. However, the event is free and open to public so we encourage you to attend with the general audience.
Please note, taping for television or any other filming is strictly prohibited between 3rd and 7th Street without a media credential. The event will be broadcast live on Comedy Central and comedycentral.com and a clean feed will also be available by satellite – coordinates will be released when they are available. Please contact Renata Luczak to receive the satellite coordinates.
From: Richard Pollock
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:14 PM
To: Albani, Steve
Subject: Re: DC Rally Update
Dear Steve,
Thanks for your reply. Can we get media credentials without a riser position?
Yours,
Richard
From: Albani, Steve
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 3:15 PM
To: Richard Pollock
Subject: RE: DC Rally Update
The only camera crews that will receive credentials are those for the riser. We are not issuing any other TV credentials.
Sorry.
Steve
From: “Richard Pollock”
Date: Oct 29, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: DC Rally Update
To: “Albani, Steve”
Hi Steve,
Well your risers, you own. As Comedy Central, you have property rights and complete control over that. No one will deny you that. We are content, though disappointed with your decision to withhold media credentials to us.
However, the last I heard the First Amendment still does apply to America. It not only applies to TV hosts, show producers and to networks, but extends to the public and to events held on federal land. Yes, public lands! Although it may not make any sense to you at this moment, the National Mall is not a TV set, although it may look like one.
As the former chief Washington producer for ABC’s “Good Morning America” for nine years, let me assure you that you cannot bar cameras from public walkways on the Mall. It has never happened.
And so we will be there crew and all.
It does seem a bit incredulous that a rally for “reasonableness” should exclude freely based camera crews exercising their First Amendment rights to cover your attendees walking on public property. Unless this is Prague in 1968. And unless Comedy Central own tanks. Or unless it deploys a Comedy Police with enforcement powers.
On the other hand maybe I got this all wrong…I thought you were merely trying to be clever when you said it was a rally for fear. If is that, then I certainly understand your attitudes and rules.
See you tomorrow!
All the best,
Richard
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/rally-to-resore-sanity-pledges-to-strictly-prohibit-filming-at-national-mall-106355893.html#ixzz13rn8bz7X
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 07:12 pm |
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librarylady
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I'm watching on live video and am surprised at the size of the crowd.
CNN is filming as is Comedy Central.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 07:22 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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They would not issues Press Credentials to PJTV, or permit them on Comdey Central Risers - which is their Right- Steve Albani about receiving credentials. Albani claimed that Pollock would not be given credentials because of limited supply, and as such there would be no room on the “press riser” for PJTV’s camera and crew.
When Pollock (PJTV) said that he’d be fine with filming not on the press riser, Albani said that filming would be “strictly prohibited” between 3rd and 7th streets on the National Mall (ground zero for the event). The email exchange is further down.
The National Mall is Public Property and these leftist Asshats cannot prohibt anyone from filming there legally.
Sabe ?
Last edited on Sat Oct 30th, 2010 07:39 pm by Red Oak II
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:00 pm |
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Bubba
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Dude.....
It's COMEDY CENTRAL.......
And it's comedy...... which sometimes involves the word: "Parody".....
GIT IT YET?!?!?!?!?!
Sheeeeesh......
Lighten up.... and untwist yerself.....
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:02 pm |
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My son and his girlfriend went. They got to see Tony Bennet!!!!
I thought Stewart's losing comments were very good.
I just watched the last few minutes. Wonder if they're going to repeat it?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:08 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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Bubba wrote: Dude.....
It's COMEDY CENTRAL.......
And it's comedy...... which sometimes involves the word: "Parody".....
GIT IT YET?!?!?!?!?!
Sheeeeesh......
Lighten up.... and untwist yerself.....
So it is your assertion that the statement in the email exchange is parody ?
Or that this obvious illegal attempt to prohibt filming on the Nation Mall be over looked because it is "Parody" ?
Albani said that filming would be “strictly prohibited” between 3rd and 7th streets on the National Mall (ground zero for the event). The email exchange is further down.
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:08 pm |
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librarylady
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Bubba wrote: Dude.....
It's COMEDY CENTRAL.......
And it's comedy...... which sometimes involves the word: "Parody".....
GIT IT YET?!?!?!?!?!
Sheeeeesh......
Lighten up.... and untwist yerself.....
+1
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:09 pm |
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librarylady
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rusty wrote: My son and his girlfriend went. They got to see Tony Bennet!!!!
I thought Stewart's losing comments were very good.
I just watched the last few minutes. Wonder if they're going to repeat it? Probably...............
I just saw about 15 minutes.
Some insightful comments, IMO.
I was sitting here thinking. "Kinda sad when the comedians are making more sense than the pundits."
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:11 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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If I need to lighten up, which may be good advice; may be y'all need to wake up ?
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
Frederic Bastiat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:13 pm |
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librarylady
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Red Oak, if the entire event is broadcast on more than one news site, and on Comedy Central, I don't think some evil plot to violate the public's right to know has been violated.
As I read the letters, the cameras were not banned--just press credentials.
The only camera crews that will receive credentials are those for the riser. We are not issuing any other TV credentials. ...hardly an evil plot, IMO......
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:28 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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So what is meant or intended in this Email Exchange? Credential or not, anyone can film.
Albani said that filming would be “strictly prohibited” between 3rd and 7th streets on the National Mall (ground zero for the event). The email exchange is further down.
Face it Stewart's "Parody" is a Political gathering and Pep Rally of and for the Left. Code Pink, and other extreme left groups are attending - not in protest but in sympathy. Voter Registration is occurring and all of that is fine and good, it is their Right.
But for some Asshat to believe he can "Prohibt" filiming between 3rd & 7th Streets on the National Mall is Lunacy and Arrogance, and the Asshats should be called on it.
Last edited on Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:29 pm by Red Oak II
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
Frederic Bastiat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:49 pm |
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Bubba
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Red Oak II wrote: So what is meant or intended in this Email Exchange? Credential or not, anyone can film.
Albani said that filming would be “strictly prohibited” between 3rd and 7th streets on the National Mall (ground zero for the event). The email exchange is further down.
Face it Stewart's "Parody" is a Political gathering and Pep Rally of and for the Left. Code Pink, and other extreme left groups are attending - not in protest but in sympathy. Voter Registration is occurring and all of that is fine and good, it is their Right.
But for some Asshat to believe he can "Prohibt" filiming between 3rd & 7th Streets on the National Mall is Lunacy and Arrogance, and the Asshats should be called on it.
And ya might wanna consider the source of this "assumed" email exchange.....
IT's COMEDY CENTRAL DUDE......
Think about it.....
Parody 'R' Them.....
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 08:54 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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I don't buy it, nothing in the email exchange implied any joking or parody to me, just arrogance from the leftist b******s.
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
Frederic Bastiat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 09:05 pm |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 09:32 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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Hopefully they showed up with their Camera Crew.
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
Frederic Bastiat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 09:38 pm |
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Bubba
Redneck Computer Geek
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Like I said..... "I've gotz pics"......
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Anybody can say anythang on the interwebs......
Don't make it true......
But peeps will glam on to anythang that'll fortify/justify their preconceived ideas.....
That's just the way it goes.......
"Truthers" .... "Birthers"..... For example....
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 10:25 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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So you think the Email is fake, I don't.
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The State is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
Frederic Bastiat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 11:27 pm |
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Based on what I read about the event, "restoring sanity" involves bashing conservatives and Fox News.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 11:50 pm |
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Bubba
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Red Oak II wrote: So you think the Email is fake, I don't.
As the late, Great, President Reagan used ta say......
"Trust .... But Verify".....
I personally don't put much trust in seemingly broadcasted email communication(s).....
But?.... That's just me... Y'all's results may vary....
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 11:55 pm |
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Red Oak II
Junior Crumedgeon
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Yep that is their Right, I hope they had a good time, because after Tuesday they may be the joke, instead of making jokes.
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